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Lu Meng Ziming ([personal profile] young_oldman) wrote2014-10-11 10:23 am
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IC Inbox: Empatheias

[Your birds might get a little plump on bird seeds. Just saying.]
opportunitycosts: (• it's like a million dollar phone)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-06 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
[If Alvin were in Lu Meng's shoes, he might actually feel similar, or at least feel something about emotions becoming so transparent. Mostly because all his life he's bottled his own emotions and tried to hide them from everyone. So there's going to be a soft "wave" of reassurance, as if Alvin is trying to metaphysically reach out to give Lu Meng a pat on the shoulder, giving him some kind of calm support pillar to latch onto.]

Yeah, I got time. [Personally he feels like he needs a break from the drama that has encased the house (and probably literally given how this world works), but he doesn't say anything about his own issues or give away any hint of it. It's all Lu Meng right now.] Where would you like to meet?
opportunitycosts: (• i'm right back home again)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-06 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
[After a moment of studying—]

It's not too far—I'll be there in a few minutes.
opportunitycosts: (• i feel again)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-06 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
[Before leaving, Alvin seriously considered bringing a bottle with him. Not for Lu Meng (although it may help who knows), but for himself. He knows this is going to involve some heavy discussions and he'd probably prefer if he had something to deal it with. But he opts not to, and as promised he arrives at the location within a few minutes. There's no reason to delay and really he can't even try to prepare for what may happen. He just has to try and be calm and give Lu Meng the support he needs—support that he's never really done before, but has learned through others.

He hopes he can pull it off.]


Apparently doesn't like baths. [There's a small, wry grin as he answers, now standing beside the man. He can see the lines, can see how worn out his friend is. It kind of hurts just looking at him. Perhaps that's the reason why he responded in such a lighthearted manner or maybe that's just how Alvin is. Maybe both.] But he's a tough kid. He'll be fine.
opportunitycosts: (• you take the weight)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-06 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
[Good question.]

How about starting with what you're feeling right now?

[Usually that helps spur things and it'll all eventually go back to the root. Also, Alvin is going to take this opportunity to find a place to sit or lean against something. Might as well get comfortable.]
opportunitycosts: (• but in the end)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-06 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
[He's not even going to ask when the last time Lu Meng had a solid night's sleep.]

You should do that. Sleep the whole day if you have to.

I'm not much of an oversleeper, but I've had a couple of nights where I just slept like a log. Never felt more refreshed, especially after a stressful mission.

So what exactly is stressing you?
opportunitycosts: (• make that money)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-07 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Take all the time you need. [Although, just to be clear, Lu Meng is still more mature than Alvin, even in his current state.

But for now, Alvin really is paying close attention to what Lu Meng is saying and doing, staying politely silent as he waits. There's really not much he can do until Lu Meng starts talking, and while he could try a few techniques to coax information out, something tells him that he should let the man try to do it on his own first.]
opportunitycosts: (• you were the only one)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-08 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
So most of your life you've been trying to prove yourself?
opportunitycosts: (• but in the end)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-08 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
[Hearing a young Lu Meng... It always intrigued Alvin since it's clearly how he was in his youth is starkly different from how he's grown up to be. In some respects, Alvin is the same, and it's testament to just how people tend to grow up. But it's not just some story he's hearing—he knows this is all part of what makes Lu Meng the man he is now, and so he tries to use it as a way to understand him and how it's affecting him right now.

And the most obvious is that need to prove himself worthy—to be a "strong" kind of person not physically, but mentally as well. To fit in. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but there are limits. And as proven here, Lu Meng has gone over it.]


And now you're feeling as if you're no longer that? That you've somehow slipped and let your lord down?
opportunitycosts: (• you take the weight)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-11 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
Well... [A small pause as he tries to think how to say what he wants to say.] Depression doesn't have an easy fix. It takes a while and you have relapses—constantly. In your case, you've been through a lot, and a lot of people don't even make it to where you are now.

[Another long pause.]

I think you also have to just accept it rather than completely fight it.
opportunitycosts: (• sometimes inside)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-12 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yes—but not necessarily going that far. [This is where it's going to get complicated. He stands there for a moment, lips pursed slightly before he just gives a shake of his head and just runs with it.]

Take me for example. I've kind of told you a few things about my past. Despite what you may think of me now, I'm not really that great of a guy. Traitor, liar, do whatever it takes to get what I need, even if it means if someone has to die for it. Including my friends and people who trusted me. [Mmm he definitely has a rap sheet. But he talks about this casually, as if he's talking about graduating high school, finding a job—like it's just another thing that happened in his life.] That's just the type of person I was.

But you don't see me like that now, right? [Holds up a hand in a half shrug.] Now, I could have just continued like that, but I didn't want to—just like how you don't want to stay as you are right now. On the other hand, I could have gone way over to the other side, like trying to repent and live with regret and guilt for everything.

[A shake of his head.]

Not my type of lifestyle, either. Instead, I'm a realist. I could either sit around and mope, or do something about it. And the only way to do something is if you accept the shit that comes with the sparkles. That's just how life is, and that's how people really are.

So right now, you have this "inner demon," this "bad side" that you're trying to wrestle with. You see yourself as a threat, but look around. [He waves an arm to the side.] Everyone is a threat, whether they know how to use a weapon or not, and this place is even worse. You're not the only one affected by Sosyne, and I know some other strong willed minds be influenced or overtaken. [Not going to directly mention Ludger, but that's a small allusion to it.] Hell, I know I'm a big threat. You saw me back at Piphron's pod. [You know, guns ablazing?] If I had been aligned with Sosyne, who knows what could have happened.

So I get that you want to be stronger so that wouldn't happen, that you want to be able to protect those you care about—I do. But you're looking at it wrong. You haven't "become" anything. I seriously doubt you actually want to stay like this, anyway. But if you continue to fear it and let it get to you like this, then you really will become something. Instead you have to look it in the eye and say, "Hey, I know you're there. I know you want to try and control me. But I won't let you. Instead I'll just let you sit right here next to me and see how I control my life." [...Wow, that sounded. Rather motivational. How far this man has come.]

That's what I mean by "accepting" it. Just recognize that this is a thing that can happen and use it instead of letting it use you.
opportunitycosts: (• old but i'm not that old)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-22 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
[One might think Alvin would flinch or want to take back his words. Instead, he only thinks one thing and one thing only:

Good.

He just takes Lu Meng's outburst head on, not moving an inch or even surprised. After all, he's not kidding himself to believe that what he says could actually help. Would be great if it did—make things a hell lot easier—but this was more of the reaction he expected. Not pleasant, of course, but he can deal with it. Better himself than someone else more fragile. (But seriously, Lu Meng, ever heard of a metaphor? Mean, come on, you're talking to a guy who knows full well how twisted and mixed up a person is. You can be sure Alvin is going to get onto his case about that later.)

More importantly, although not actually his intent, it made Lu Meng finally speak out about the true problem here. Made him actually release some of that anger and frustration. Good or bad, who knows, but it's at least something that he can work with. Maybe.

There's a long moment of silence as Alvin just stares at Lu Meng, as if taking in everything that was said and processing. Eventually, his shoulders slacken as he shifts his weight from one leg to the other.]


Well I think one thing's that changed for sure is your ability to comprehend what I'm saying. [Nevermind, just going to get to it now.] Seriously, did you even hear anything I just said or did you really get that stuck on my use of metaphors?

[Sighs and raises a hand.]

Call it whatever you want, but nothing you said changes anything. You're right, there is no "cure." There's no "easy fix button" that you can push to make things go away. That's not how life works. Everything you do sticks with you forever and what you went through may take years, maybe your entire lifetime. Even now I have nightmares of things that happened in my past, things I regret and things no kid should have ever experienced. Maybe not as extreme as you, but it's all the same. [He won't get into that, though, and he's stopping himself short from accidentally saying too much. Plus, it's as he said. As bad as his life has been, Lu Meng is still worse and the key focal point. Still, trauma is trauma.

A slow exhale.]


I don't know how else to say this, Lu Meng. You'll never go back to who you were, but you sure as hell won't be turning into whatever you think you will. No matter what happens, you're still you and you said it yourself—a man only has his actions and what happens now is what counts.

So what exactly are you counting?
opportunitycosts: (• was five long years)

[personal profile] opportunitycosts 2015-11-24 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
[He so wants to once again point how stupid and literal Lu Meng is taking his words and then promptly ignoring the actual meaning behind them, but he just throws up a hand and sighs, shaking his head.]

Welcome to the "adults who have kids babysitting them" club, then. [Because he's had those kids babysit him for a while now, and they still do to a degree.]

If there's one thing my friends have taught me is that despite how they look or what age they are, kids are a hell lot smarter, stronger, and more mature than us adults. You're right that they shouldn't have to look after us, but have you considered Shun's feelings? What if he wants to help take that burden? Have you ever thought that he wants to help you? And have you ever thought that you actually need that help?

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